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Posted by Guest - 08-26-2012 08:10 PM
I am a retired teacher, having taught mostly foreign students, in a very long career. I would like to say to this young man to forgive this ignorant pastor and move on in your walk with the Lord. A pastor is called to teach the Word of God to ALL those who come to him no matter what race or ethnic group they come from. God's Kingdom is not about race, ethnic group, or social status. The ground is all level at the foot of the cross! This pastor needs a real baptism of love and of the Holy Spirit in his own life before he can help anyone else. Pray for him and move on to a church where the Word is preached with the Anointing of the Holy Spirit and where it is preached to all without fear or prejudice or playing favorites. God bless you!
Posted by Chris8 - 08-25-2012 12:33 AM
Dear Lord,please have mercy on this guest.
In the Name of the Lord,right now I command to all the power of darkness and the curses to leave this guest! Now!
I pray that Your will to be done in their life.
You are the King of kings and Your Name is Wonderful.
Thank You my Lord
Posted by Guest - 08-14-2010 11:12 AM
Thumb Warrior Jesus-cross

adoring1 Wrote:Father...thank God for this young man who sees the wrong in how he has been treated by a man who has been given the job of shepherd. Let is righteous indignation become the seed of ministry...God loves this young man and understands his anger...Jesus was angrey in the temple as the word says. The question now is what to do with it. Pray my son...for wisdom and take this matter directly to this pastor and speak from your heart with the words that Christ gives you. The word says...do not worry what you will say before authorities and magistrates for I will give you the words at the time. Sometimes the old must learn from the young...sometimes the teacher must become the student. My prayers are with you...and I know in my spirit you will fight the battle as God would have you to do so. As for the poster who suggests that their is something wrong with those that come to this country from other places...SHAME ON YOU! God is listening to your heart and is grieved by your words...repent that the Lord may bless your life!
Posted by adoring1 - 08-14-2010 10:26 AM
Father...thank God for this young man who sees the wrong in how he has been treated by a man who has been given the job of shepherd. Let is righteous indignation become the seed of ministry...God loves this young man and understands his anger...Jesus was angrey in the temple as the word says. The question now is what to do with it. Pray my son...for wisdom and take this matter directly to this pastor and speak from your heart with the words that Christ gives you. The word says...do not worry what you will say before authorities and magistrates for I will give you the words at the time. Sometimes the old must learn from the young...sometimes the teacher must become the student. My prayers are with you...and I know in my spirit you will fight the battle as God would have you to do so. As for the poster who suggests that their is something wrong with those that come to this country from other places...SHAME ON YOU! God is listening to your heart and is grieved by your words...repent that the Lord may bless your life!
Posted by Guest - 08-14-2010 08:49 AM
& let the anger be the fire, as The Refiner's Fire, of God, that helps you to make a difference, the air, which fans the flames, can be your passion that you know prejudice, the feeling of being left out, so you make a difference, however that be, you are educated, you come from a very educated family, use that knowledge, aligned with God, to make a difference, & it is good to love always, so not in treating those that are comfortable with what is, poorly or staying in that place, either physically or mentally, as it is, but doing what you can do, there or somewhere! When the flames become intense (anger), the use water (baptism) to calm them, channel the gifts & talents that God Gives you, for HIM.

Guest Wrote:I'm a chemical engineering student at a philadelphia college where I attend a campus ministry (CRU). On sundays we carpool to a church in a wealthy suburb of philadelphia-- it's predominantly white, I tag along, I think nothing of it.

My baptism was not what I expected it to be, I was placed last in line and the pastor didn't pass me the microphone; ok, no big deal, I don't like public statements of faith.

During bible study the same pastor exhibits selective deafness, he dismisses my questions, I no longer participate, and this is a problem now, apparently i'm not engaged. He regularly comments on my origin and the good works the church does there, now implying I grew up in the same poor, desolate, crime-ridden conditions he knows; I've repeatedly stated I grew up in a metropolitan city.

Recently we met for lunch after bible study; the pastor came along. He inquired about my family. He brought up drug cartels in my country and asked if my parents had ever been involved, if not, how could they afford my education. I had to reiterate my mother is a lawyer, my father runs a multinational, we live in a city with a flourishing economy, I did not grow up in a shack.

I talked about this recently with friends from CRU. Seems like i'm not the first to bring issues up, others have felt "left out", i've learnt there's carpools that go to predominantly asian, black, and hispanic churches (with folks I don't know yet). I guess it's race above faith.

I'm angry, insulted, and humiliated; I know i'm different, why can't I enjoy my visits to church? Sometimes I ask myself if there's something inherent in faith that causes people to be oblivious, fearful, ignorant, and in some cases even purposefully divisive. When this pastor conducts service, I grow angry and my faith lingers. To everyone else, "that was a great service, praise the Lord".
Posted by Guest - 08-14-2010 04:04 AM
God Does Not like us being lukewarm, thus some are fine with the status quo, or being nice to the fitter-inners. If this is something that bothers you, then maybe God Is Calling On you, that you become a leader among men. Anger is an emotion that is human, there is nothing wrong with anger, it is what we do with our anger that matters & to God. God Gets Angry, Jesus Was Angered at times, anger is not bad, it is what we do with it that counts & to HIM.
I would find another church, be creative in your search. If you believe this situation is not going to change, & you find that this is commonplace or that you are moved (by your anger) to do something in regards (there is much prejudice in the world / this is part of the evil one/ yes & division ). That is a gift that as a Christian you have. The ability to make things better, if not in the church you are, & you find there is a lack, then be a starter, perhaps form a group.
When we take what is not good & help to make it better, however that is, our abilities, talents, desires & calling, the world is a better place. Anger is not wrong, it is what we do with it that changes the world, for better or worse. God Bless you!


Guest Wrote:I'm a chemical engineering student at a philadelphia college where I attend a campus ministry (CRU). On sundays we carpool to a church in a wealthy suburb of philadelphia-- it's predominantly white, I tag along, I think nothing of it.

My baptism was not what I expected it to be, I was placed last in line and the pastor didn't pass me the microphone; ok, no big deal, I don't like public statements of faith.

During bible study the same pastor exhibits selective deafness, he dismisses my questions, I no longer participate, and this is a problem now, apparently i'm not engaged. He regularly comments on my origin and the good works the church does there, now implying I grew up in the same poor, desolate, crime-ridden conditions he knows; I've repeatedly stated I grew up in a metropolitan city.

Recently we met for lunch after bible study; the pastor came along. He inquired about my family. He brought up drug cartels in my country and asked if my parents had ever been involved, if not, how could they afford my education. I had to reiterate my mother is a lawyer, my father runs a multinational, we live in a city with a flourishing economy, I did not grow up in a shack.

I talked about this recently with friends from CRU. Seems like i'm not the first to bring issues up, others have felt "left out", i've learnt there's carpools that go to predominantly asian, black, and hispanic churches (with folks I don't know yet). I guess it's race above faith.

I'm angry, insulted, and humiliated; I know i'm different, why can't I enjoy my visits to church? Sometimes I ask myself if there's something inherent in faith that causes people to be oblivious, fearful, ignorant, and in some cases even purposefully divisive. When this pastor conducts service, I grow angry and my faith lingers. To everyone else, "that was a great service, praise the Lord".
Posted by Guest - 08-14-2010 03:03 AM
God please help this person not be angry and find good people.
Posted by bcshelvsme - 08-13-2010 08:36 PM
Lord give strength, encouragement, and wisdom to this young man. Remove all anger from him so his spirit won't be killed by prejudice and ignorant people even in the churches. Let him see even pastors are human with a background which probably taught him to be that way. You taught us to pray for those that trespass against us. Help him pray for this pastor instead of letting anger destroy the joy of his salvation. Also so his prayers won't be hindered for not forgiving others when he prays. May he be a good example to this pastor of what a real Christian really is like. May the pastor also learn that not all immigrants are the same. There are well to do people in those countries with money they worked hard for, and more educated probably than the pastor himself. Open the eyes of this pastor Lord and have him show your love and compassion instead of prejudice, which comes from the enemy and not from you. May this pastor learn to do your work and not the work of the enemy. I pray your perfect will be done in this young man's life, and in his situation in Jesus Christ Precious Name, as I thank you in advance Heavenly Father to whom all the Honor, and the Glory belongs, Amen! Warrior
Mathew 18:19 - 20
"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them
Posted by Guest - 08-13-2010 06:57 PM
Unless this poster (the complainer about immigrants) is a Native American, they too are immigrant.
& I heard Nothing postive in the statements made (your Christian? reply to them), nothing Godly.
All I can think, is when one walks through THE PEARLY GATES,
will God Say, "YOU ARE FOREIGNER, I DO NOT KNOW YOU, GET OUT!"

Please sir/mam, humble yourself, what you speak is out of ignorance, & not out of a heart of love for God.

This man is saying they are hurt by, you are merely just an angry person & I pray that God Helps you overcome this.

In Jesus' Name. Amen.


Guest Wrote:
Guest Wrote:I'm angry, insulted, and humiliated; I know i'm different, why can't I enjoy my visits to church? Sometimes I ask myself if there's something inherent in faith that causes people to be oblivious, fearful, ignorant, and in some cases even purposefully divisive. When this pastor conducts service, I grow angry and my faith lingers. To everyone else, "that was a great service, praise the Lord".

Lord Jesus, shed light on this young man. Son, God is not a god of anger, Christ is Love. Remove the plank from your eye before attempting to remove the speck of dust from your brother's. Your pastor likely had the best of intentions. Im tired of immigrants complaining about work, education, and now church. America has become a melting pot of foreigners and muslims, things have gone from bad to worst, now our economy is down the tubes thanks to mr. hussein obama. You fail to recognize the work your church mission accomplishes in your country son. Rather than coming here to complain you should consider going back to your country and doing something about it so we don't have to fix it for you. God bless.
Posted by Guest - 08-13-2010 06:26 PM
Lord, educate this person that posts that immigrants are somehow not right or needy or less than, they are not educated by YOU, Lord, they need YOUR KNOWLEDGE, & it is obvious they don't have it worked out yet. "You will know them by their fruits, PEACE, LOVE, & JOY."
I am inclined to believe that this guest that posted this reply about how immigrants are less than needs far more prayer than the orig poster too! LORD JESUS, asking YOUR CORRECTION in this matter.


Guest Wrote:
Guest Wrote:I'm angry, insulted, and humiliated; I know i'm different, why can't I enjoy my visits to church? Sometimes I ask myself if there's something inherent in faith that causes people to be oblivious, fearful, ignorant, and in some cases even purposefully divisive. When this pastor conducts service, I grow angry and my faith lingers. To everyone else, "that was a great service, praise the Lord".

Lord Jesus, shed light on this young man. Son, God is not a god of anger, Christ is Love. Remove the plank from your eye before attempting to remove the speck of dust from your brother's. Your pastor likely had the best of intentions. Im tired of immigrants complaining about work, education, and now church. America has become a melting pot of foreigners and muslims, things have gone from bad to worst, now our economy is down the tubes thanks to mr. hussein obama. You fail to recognize the work your church mission accomplishes in your country son. Rather than coming here to complain you should consider going back to your country and doing something about it so we don't have to fix it for you. God bless.
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